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Single or double batteries for my Sanwu Challenger II 520nm 1W laser pointer?

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I'm looking at getting a Sanwu Challenger II 520nm (green) 1W laser with a G7 lens and an X3 Beam Expander (see here). The battery configuration options are either a single 18650 battery or else two 18350 batteries. The single 18650 is $10 while the two 18350's are $14. My initial thought was to get the single 18650 setup - less pieces to keep track of, and cheaper. However, I wonder if either setup will affect the overall size of the laser pointer..

Other than the price difference, can anyone tell me any advantages/disadvantages to getting one style of battery configuration over the other?

Thanks for your advice.

Hi from Canada

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Hey there, new here so just saying hi. I've been researching lasers for the past couple weeks trying to help my son with a science experiment. Lots of useful info here so glad I stumbled upon this forum. Cheers.

The Chartreuse Coruscation

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Chartreuse Coruscation

Well....yet another new Hand Held project..this one is for my collection.....in which I desire to generate a combined 3.0 W output. I will be using the bounce mirror / Dichroic Mirror set up as was used on the Cyan Cannon Build. I plan on beam correcting via a 6X Cylindrical lens set. As before, I must determine if the optics correction can share a common set of 6X….or if two (2) sets of Cylindrical Optics will be demanded.

I propose to use the N520 Green LD combined with the VSHIO HL63283HD Red LD.

The combining of a Green and Red LD...is old news. Been done by Jayrob back in 2014...See http://laserpointerforums.com/f40/ye...mag-90107.html . BUT...this unit will employ the High PO - Multimode Green and the new 63283HD Red LD...and add corrective optics SO…we will have three (3) new attributes contained within this build…

1) High power adjustable colour mixing from Red ===> Green
2) Corrective Cylindrical optics for Beam shaping
3) The New 63283HD Red LD

Note: As of this time, although I would like to add a Linos 10X Beam expander….I am thinking this may not be possible. The combined Red/Green beam path axis is NOT in alignment with the unit main centre axis. As of this writing, I have not come up with a work-around !

The colour line I want to hit is likely 550 to 560 nm....and it is called "Chartreuse Green" ! How fortunate that our Peak Daylight sensitivity for cones and Rods lies at 555nm. See the attached Wiki link outlining this colour !

For now, this build will be based upon the " Cyan Cannon" HH build platform. Lessons learned / design improvements gained from the Cyan Cannon build be integrated. This build will incorporate the new VSHIO HL63283HD Red LD. Beam correction will be a necessary...as will be matching the divergence of these two (2) LD's.

I will start with a Optical Test Bed set up to establish just what can be accomplished and the resultant colour output of the two (2) mixed beams. Once we establish that the desired colour output can be achieved....then I will go on to achieving parity for Far field divergence matching and minimal divergence for both beams.

The current plan is to incorporate a dual set of Opt C-lenses; One set for the Red LD and one set for the Green LD. I project that this double set of Cylindrical lenses may be demanded to ensure the ability of matching the divergence of these two diodes. Not sure…maybe we can do it with a shared single set of Cylindrical optics.

After this level is attained, then......I will finalize the actual Hand Held design details...and start the build.

As guide for any design…. Two (2) basic things are desirable;
1) Ability to adjust all optics
2) Ease of optical alignment

Unfortunately…. directly linked to the ability to adjust…comes the ability to become misaligned !! If something is mechanically inserted into some channel geometry…with no ability to be adjusted…well…it does not have the potential for future misalignment….but then….how does one achieve the optimal alignment in the first place ???

So, there lies the basic compromise….It can be and has been done. MANY lesson’s were learned with the Cyan Cannon build….and will surly be applied to the Chartuse Corusication build.

The control plan for this set-up will be to run the Red LD at full PO capacity and current vary the Green LD to modulate the Green input only. By mixing the two lines of Green 520nm and Red 635nm we should be able to generate a combined beam of Green-Yellow display...Chartreuse Green.
SO...Can we do it ??....Sure...we can !!

I do not know of another purposeful attempt to use a corrected LD combination approach to achieve this perceived particular color...in the Hand Held format.

For now...the plan is to use a 2D cell Modified Maglite host …as was used in the Cyan Cannon build. Two (2) 26650 or two (2) 32250 LiPo cells will drive two separate drivers. LiPo Cell output will be approx. 8.4 VDC, One of the drivers will be the Worsee 8A Black Buck and this is the driver that will Modulate the Green ND 520 Diode.

Not sure on the shroud/canopy arrangement....likely the standard full Acrylic canopy ????

This is a large build....but then...the optics design demands this. It will also not be a light weight unit....so...it can always be used as a Nutcracker in a pinch !! Hahaha

Stay tuned in the coming months to see how this unfolds !!

I just cannot and will not wait...until a High Power / 555nm LD pops up on the market !! Forget That !!! Will the beams be a totally PERFECT MATCH ???? NO...So what !!! We will get CLOSE !!

See this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_(color)

CDBEAM

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Laser Surprise!

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Earlier tonight i went out to my back yard to use my green laser. I have an 8ft stone wall along my property with a 6ft fence running perpendicular. I had set out a box in the corner a couple of day ago and was going to shine the laser at it. I had my glasses on so I couldn't see too well in the dark. As soon as I turned on the laser 2 HUGE possums fell off the 8ft wall and hauled tail through my yard. I hadn't even seen them up there. I don't who scared who more

some "new" pics 5/19/18

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These pics were taken about a month ago over the course of a week. They are basically my glass spheres set up with a few mirrorss and either one, two, or three laser rainbows (460nm, 532nm, 589nm, 635nm) interacting with the spheres. I eventually removed the middle glass sphere are replaced it with a rectangular block glass and got some good results.

As I was listening to music while photographing (as I always do), I saw the straight lines on from the EQ on my iphone and put my phone behind my biggest glass sphere and got some "interesting" bending of the lines. Lastly there are a few pics after that where I used a 495nm. A very vibrant batch, enjoy.

p.s. one BIG subtle difference in these is that the Red frequency is on the top of the rainbow and not the bottom. I am very OCD about have the Blue frequency on top, always, since I have doing this for 6 years. The week before these were taken was the first time I tried reversing it and I liked the change, so I tried it again on these


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New High Power Red VSHIO HL63283HD LD

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Well, we finally have a new High Power Multimode Red @ 635nm...That being the VSHIO HL632383HD. See attached Data Sheet and pics of my initial optical attempts to tame the divergence on this diode.

Well...Success !! I can get the divergence down to equal that of the P73....( around 1.0 mRad ). The LD is rated for 1.2 W cont./1.5W pulse. I am sure we can push it to ....er.....maybe 1.8W
or maybe 2W...Yes...

Brightest and tightest single Red LD I have ever powered up. I did not run past 1.6A @ 2.7 VDC. A great output of beautiful Red Photons !!!

Of course....one must use Cylindrical lenses....and a 2mm EFL Collimation lens...so what !! 2W in a ultra small single LD...with a relatively tight beam !!:drool::drool::drool:

I am sure DTR will have these shortly. Right now...$ 100 per LD...but you know how the price drops !!!!

I will be refining the optical set up and pushing the current....not sure how high....likely I will max out at 1.8A

I will watch the output as the current is increased...like DTR does. And I will be looking for the knee....where a diminishing return on Power Output is noted.

See the pics. !!

Enjoy the ride !!

CDBEAM

Added...Oh...And...This....will be the Red LD engine in the Chartruse Corusication build....one can never have too much red....Hmmm 1.4W outa the NDG7475....and 1.6 W outa the HL632383HD....as my hero Austin Powers would say..." Yea Baby" !! 3W of Lime Green.... at our peak luminosity sensitivity line...outa be bright enough !!! Ya just cannot get more " Bang for your Buck " at this wavelength !!!

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Dental Mirror Bounce-House

RGB tail caps?


Need advice for a good glue

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We are searching a good glue/bond for our laser modules.

The main purpose of use of it is to glue glass lenses to the metal surfaces inside the laser modules etc.
The main requirement is a fast bonding (UV is possible, of course).

We have tried some epoxy items from Thorlabs but seems they make too much vapor and during a laser emission, it covers the optics with some layer similar to tar and it significantly reduces the efficiency of the module.
What can you recommend to us?
Thanks in advance.

RAMAN-spectroscopy

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Based on various personal and public conversations, I would like to open a new special topic here.

This will be about all the relevant facets of RAMAN spectroscopy with individual DIY solutions, links to websites, sources of reference for hard and software or other topics here in the laserpointerforum.

Especially for me in the heart, because this nostalgic device deserves a rebirth ... :yh: , is the forum and solutions to use this device :

B & W-Tech Spectrometer & 473 module: Setup + Mods + Info

Link:

https://laserpointerforums.com/f42/b...fo-101467.html

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Built two new blue lasers today

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25mW of 490ish awesomeness. This is officially my new EDC laser.





A Sharp GH04850B2G on a Micro FelxDrive 5 @ 75mw running on a 10280 battery in a stainless AAA host .



I love this little host. It is only 3.55 inches long and 0.487 wide. It has great feel to it; very hefty for it's size. I really like the metal clicky button. There just isn't quite enough room to fit a module with FlexDrive and still use the AAA battery. I opted for a 10280 (2/3 AAA) and everything fits, but it's a tight squeeze. I turned the copper module down a bit and machined a little spacer to house the driver.












My next build is a PLT5450B putting out 155mW of 450nm on a Micro FlexDrive 5 set at 260mW. This seems like a really inefficient diode. It's in a NEBO Tools 5872 CSI Edge 90 Flashlight





I love the look and feel; Lots of angles and facets with a rubberized grip, but I won't build in this host again. It is very cheaply made, using press-fit plastic inside instead of threaded parts. This definitely made it difficult to disassemble the head.



I'm having way too much fun learning how to use my dividing table. :crackup:



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new ndg525-nugm525

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i just found this on ebay today and i think its real as its listed from a trusted seller.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/to9-tin-pin...s/263691115473

on the discription has both names ndg525 and nugm525 so i don't know witch is true.(i think the nugm525 as the nugmxx part always refering to diodes with gball can)

it claims to be a 525nm 1w diode that its pretty interesting if those diode have higher wavelengh,i imagine some of them could hit 528nm+ especially if overdriven :drool:

another interesting part is the price which is preety good and also those look new from the factory and not extracted from projectors.

if i had a spectrometer i would definetly get one for testing but without it i can't tell much before someone here test it out.


edit:after a better look it looks to be extracted from something but its not having the common soldering that we see latelty on projector diodes.something look different


very interesting year for our beloved hobby don't you agree?:D

NUBM47 in Trinh Hong Phuoc Host

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Alright! So my host from Trinh came in and I decided to get my new laser into it ASAP!

The host is very well made, but has some minor fabrication scars. I absolutely love it regardless and it is nice and heavy, good for a large build.

The 12mm Module fits in EXTREMELY snug so it should stay very well heatsinked, The set screw was almost unnecessary because of how tight the fit was.
The aluminum body is thick and heavy, yet still lighter than it looks.

The copper module doesn't actually directly wire into the button section. The copper module has a contact board+spring that goes onto the bottom which touches the contact board on top of the button section. This is great as Trinh also sent me an extra aluminum module so I can freely switch them back and forth as I please.

The tail cap and momentary button section are both nicely threaded and tapped. The buttons also work nicely and provide a nice safety feature in that the bottom switch must be on for the momentary switch to work.

As someone who works with metals and unique fabrications daily, this is some nice precision work. Could be a little cleaner with the small scars, but beautiful none the less.

This is the new NUBM47 Diode, and it has a BlackBuck 6 Driver, set at 5A with a DTR G2.


Photos:
Tailcap 3X view
Battery Tube
Button Section 3X view
Module with 12mm Module inside +Driver shelf 2Xview
Head
Head with cap
Module with Focusing cap
Size Comparison between Trinh Host and Ripoff Spiker Saber
Beaming! :D
















Just showing it off some :D Hope you like it.

I'll be doing review on my transactions with Trinh in the other section here in a moment.

Thanks for looking!

My Dealings with Trinh Hong Phuoc

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Hi all!

So I recently received my laser host from Trinh, and I'd like to give some feedback and review how everything went down.

I'm gonna be honest with this review, and nothing here is meant to be insulting or hurtful. Just constructive criticism.


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Requesting the host:
I talked to Trinh in the middle of February and requested a host to be made. The host was not fully completed until the end of April.

I know some thing popped up during the making of the host, but I was left without any knowledge of the delay. In the future, it's best to be up front with clients and tell them of anything that might be delaying or stopping production of their order. It's always nice to know whats going on.

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The Host That Was Ordered:
Before I go on here, everyone please understand, there is a language barrier here and I'm sure many things got lost in translation. Many things. It is probably best to send full, detailed pictures of what you'd like, so that Trinh can visualize what you want ordered.

So I originally ordered a host with a copper head and brass body. I guess I under estimated the barrier between our conversation and ended up with a completely aluminum host. He did make the main module out of copper though, so that was good.

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Receiving the Host:
The host was sent on April 28th, and I was given a tracking number...That kinda worked. It said the packaged was shipped, but beyond that, I couldn't follow its status anywhere. Kind of annoying, but international delivery can be a hassle sometimes.
I received the host on May 21st (18th actually but I wasn't home so I missed it) The host was well packaged and safe.

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My interactions with Trinh:
Trinh was pleasant and calm throughout the entire experience. Even amongst some small claims that he might not be legit, I don't think I saw a moment where he lost his cool. He always tried his best to thoroughly understand our conversations. He also sent me some little extras for the host, as a gift.



Overall this was a long, drawn out, but pleasant experience. Hopefully in the future Trinh will get a little better with communicating between himself and his client.

Other than all that, I'd like to thank you Trinh Hong Phuoc for the lovely host. It will serve my new NUBM47 build quite wonderfully :beer:

hello from StyroPyro's discord server

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hey guys, im new to all this laser stuff, styropyro's discord server recommended me here. and just here learn how to build a laser and all that stuff

Spectral Emission line DB

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I have put together some information from the NIST database on Spectral Lines emmitted from 20 different Elements. I also added Graphs to make it easy to see were the strong lines are.

It's surprising how many lines some elements emit in the visable spectrum. Eg, Mercury emits 40 seperate lines. Out of that only 6 are strong lines.

The first sheet in the Excel File shows the Element and the emited spectral lines. The Wavelength is in Angstroms. Divide by 10 to get Nm. The intesnisty of the line I am not sure what units it is.

I was surprised to learn that Argon has some very strong lines in the Orange to Red spectrum. The normal 488nm etc lines from an Argon laser are quite low output. I guess that's why an Argon laser is so inefficient.

Excel Spreadsheet of Spectral Lines

Hopefuly some members will find it usefull. I wanted it to help decide which Spectral Discharge Tubes would be better for calibrating a Spectrometer.

laserpointerpro serious enough ?

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Hey there, i wanted to buy this laser pointer: https://www.laserpointerpro.com/de/5...ies-p-408.html

But i cant believe that it costs so cheap thats why i ask first before i do something.
Either the laserpointer has no TRUE 150mw, or the site is fake.... i can't believe it.

I am looking for a laserpointer (color is not important but i like green, blue and purple) at between 50mw and 150mw and below 60$ but i believe i will find nothing in that range.
Feel free for suggestions. I can also take alternatives.

Picking my first laser build

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Hey guys I'm trying to pick parts to build my first laser, I found this small housing kit on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Waterproof-...MAAOSwf05XOqrp

What would be a good 650nm diode to fit in it and driver etc.
It is one of those generic hosts so I thought the dimensions would be familiar to most experienced builders.
Looking for a low price components atm in case I destroy them.

Survival laser has nice kits but they are not exactly low budget, although if its worth it I might consider going with a C6 or something.

High powered laser safety and visablility

Greetings everbody

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Hi everyone,
I just made an account in this forum because as you guys can probably guess, I'm interested with lasers and other fun toys.

My name is Matthew Renna and I'm currently a Junior at Windham Technical High School and the shop I'm in is Electronics, which is where my interest in these things started.

Currently, I'm just making a strong laser pointer that I can use to burn things and I just posted a thread asking questions on it.

So again, hello everyone and I hope you guys can answer all of my many questions.
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